Post by PJ
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Post by Ray Haddad
You are one of the few here who walk the walk, PJ. You've done it
(succeeded in a writing career) and you are willing to share your
knowledge without turning the process into a slugfest. I salute you and I
salute your classy style. If anyone can return this place to its former
glory, it would be you. Steady on.
I've succeeded in a writing career, Stupid Guy, but I wouldn't presume
to try and instruct anyone here. And I'm fucked if I'd share my knowledge
with the desperate yearningtobees that from time to time pitch up wanting
to be told how to do it. Fuck them. Let them fall by the wayside where they
belong. If they can't work out for themselves that they're shit at writing
isn't anyone else's problem. Most of the prefailed arseholes that come here
are shit at writing. Good. More money for the rest of us. Of course, the
well fed artists, the part time literary dreamers are a different matter.
they mean it, bless 'em. We should hold them dear. I know I do. It's a duty.
In the same way it's a duty to fuck semilterate cunts like you over because
are shittier at writing than the most unworldly shit at writing begging
that ever joined the group hoping for a miracle.
What's more, the "former glory" you refer to is a myth. There was never any
"glory". There was a lot of arsekissing and backscratching, dispensation of
worthless advice, studied humourness, risible bumptiousness, and inevitably
terminal righteousness. All it took to end it all was the intrusion of a
of joyful guttersnipes writing.
PJ could no more return the place to the past than you could improve your
Post by PJ
Well, thank you for your kind words, but I don't see mw ever returning to
what it used to be. I first joined the group in 1996 (1995 maybe?) and
popped in and out in the following years. When I came back in 2001, I
didn't even know the place anymore. A few of the originals were still
around, but very few. Lots of people left, new ones took their place, and
the group changed. I remember when Jack and Erin came back -- I was so
glad to see them because Jack is hilarious and I like him and Erin a lot.
The problem was, they didn't come back and say, "Hey guys, remember us?
What's shakin'?" They blew in like TNT and started wailing on everyone
about what a train wreck the place had become, and people reacted with
anger as they would be expected to. That's no way to initiate change. What
the two of them did caused as many slugfests as the people they were
I look at it this way. If enough people wanted this group to change, it
would change. If they like it as it is, that's how it will stay.
Jack is a cunt, PJ. The groups changes day by day. Fucksake, sometimes
it changes back. I mean look, there's dear little Heather again, still shit
at writing, still yearning to be a Real Writer, still wanting to believe
blandishments of a journeyman will make a difference, as if a kind word
will change her world. Tell her she's a shit writer, PJ, and maybe she'll go
away and try harder.
This is Usenet, Peej, nobody dies, but a little bloodletting never did any
So, anyway, how's married life? Getting plenty?